Talk:Random Numbers - Revision history

Jwalton: /* No RAND_save_file function In Library */

2016-07-11T22:40:38Z

No RAND_save_file function In Library

Jwalton: /* No RAND_save_file function In Library */

2016-07-11T22:39:54Z

No RAND_save_file function In Library

Jwalton: /* No RAND_save_file function In Library */

2016-07-11T22:39:33Z

No RAND_save_file function In Library

Drankinatty: /* Should we be promoting a commercial company? */

2016-07-11T21:57:29Z

Should we be promoting a commercial company?

Jwalton: /* Is RAND_poll part of the public API? */

2015-06-04T18:56:11Z

Is RAND_poll part of the public API?

Jwalton: Deleted entry since the issue was cleared.

2015-06-04T18:53:23Z

Deleted entry since the issue was cleared.

Jwalton: /* Is RAND_poll part of the public API? */

2015-06-04T18:52:19Z

Is RAND_poll part of the public API?

Matt: /* Should we be promoting a commercial company? */

2013-03-31T08:28:00Z

Should we be promoting a commercial company?

Jwalton: /* void * casting hack? */

2013-03-30T18:34:23Z

void * casting hack?

Jwalton: /* Should we be promoting a commercial company? */

2013-03-30T18:33:19Z

Should we be promoting a commercial company?

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 [[User:Drankinatty|Drankinatty]] ([[User talk:Drankinatty|talk]]) 21:57, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
-: Fixed. Its called RAND_write_file, not RAND_save_file.
+: Good catch, fixed. Its called RAND_write_file, not RAND_save_file.
 : [[User:Jwalton|Jwalton]] ([[User talk:Jwalton|talk]]) 22:39, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

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 ==No RAND_save_file function In Library==
 This page contains reference to ''RAND_save_file'' and is not consistent with the Manual:RAND load file(3) page (and there is no prototype found with `grep -d skip RAND_save_file /usr/include/openssl/*`)
 : Fixed. Its called RAND_write_file, not RAND_save_file.
 : [[User:Jwalton|Jwalton]] ([[User talk:Jwalton|talk]]) 22:39, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

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 ==No RAND_save_file function In Library==
 This page contains reference to ''RAND_save_file'' and is not consistent with the Manual:RAND load file(3) page (and there is no prototype found with `grep -d skip RAND_save_file /usr/include/openssl/*`)
 [[User:Drankinatty|Drankinatty]] ([[User talk:Drankinatty|talk]]) 21:57, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

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	: No, I think a table would be worse. Leave it for now, we can review if it turns into a problem --[[User:Matt\|Matt]] 08:28, 31 March 2013 (UTC)		: No, I think a table would be worse. Leave it for now, we can review if it turns into a problem --[[User:Matt\|Matt]] 08:28, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
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		+	==No RAND_save_file function In Library==
		+	This page contains reference to ''RAND_save_file'' and is not consistent with the Manual:RAND load file(3) page (and there is no prototype found with `grep -d skip RAND_save_file /usr/include/openssl/*`)
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		+	[[User:Drankinatty\|Drankinatty]] ([[User talk:Drankinatty\|talk]]) 21:57, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

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 :::: --[[User:Matt|Matt]] 20:41, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
-::::: Matt, Ppelleti - I *thought* another indicator was capital versus lowercase. <tt>RAND_poll</tt> is public, <tt>rand_poll</tt> is private and should not be used.
+::::: Matt, Ppelleti - I *thought* the indicator was capital versus lowercase. <tt>RAND_poll</tt> is public, <tt>rand_poll</tt> is private and should not be used. I believe Viktor said the same some time ago on the OpenSSL Users mailing list. I can't find the reference at the moment.
 ::::: I also think presence/lack of documentation is a poor indicator. There's lots of stuff that's public that does not really have a man page.

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−	~~== void * casting hack? ==~~
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−	~~The thing about casting to void* and using "%p" just to print an unsigned long in hex seemed a little odd to me. Am I missing something as to why "0x%lx" isn't a viable option?~~
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−	~~--[[User:Ppelleti\|Ppelleti]] 03:00, 8 March 2013 (UTC)~~
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−	~~: Feel free [[User:Jwalton\|Jwalton]] 18:34, 30 March 2013 (UTC)~~
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	==Is RAND_poll part of the public API?==		==Is RAND_poll part of the public API?==

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 --[[User:Matt|Matt]] 12:26, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
-I think it would be good to get a clear statement of what constitutes the public API, because I'm getting conflicting messages.  You state that anything in an installed header file is part of the public API.  However, [[Contributions#Code_Maturity]] implies that functions are not part of the API until they are documented.  Since RAND_poll is not documented, that interpretation would suggested that RAND_poll is not yet "cast in stone" and is subject to change.
+: I think it would be good to get a clear statement of what constitutes the public API, because I'm getting conflicting messages.  You state that anything in an installed header file is part of the public API.  However, [[Contributions#Code_Maturity]] implies that functions are not part of the API until they are documented.  Since RAND_poll is not documented, that interpretation would suggested that RAND_poll is not yet "cast in stone" and is subject to change.
---[[User:Ppelleti|Ppelleti]] 00:03, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
+: --[[User:Ppelleti|Ppelleti]] 00:03, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
-I don't think there is a conflict between what I said above, and what it says on [[Contributions#Code_Maturity]]. That page merely says that the API might not have completely settled down which might be the reason why there isn't any documentation. It doesn't say that the API is not "public" until its been documented.
+:: I don't think there is a conflict between what I said above, and what it says on [[Contributions#Code_Maturity]]. That page merely says that the API might not have completely settled down which might be the reason why there isn't any documentation. It doesn't say that the API is not "public" until its been documented.
---[[User:Matt|Matt]] 21:05, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
+:: --[[User:Matt|Matt]] 21:05, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
-Sidestepping the semantics of what it means to be "public", the real question I'm getting at is whether we should be encouraging people to use RAND_poll?  Or did the OpenSSL developers leave RAND_poll undocumented on purpose?
+::: Sidestepping the semantics of what it means to be "public", the real question I'm getting at is whether we should be encouraging people to use RAND_poll?  Or did the OpenSSL developers leave RAND_poll undocumented on purpose?
---[[User:Ppelleti|Ppelleti]] 20:33, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
+::: --[[User:Ppelleti|Ppelleti]] 20:33, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
-Well in my personal opinion, we should not avoid undocumented functions merely because they are undocumented. If you're going to do that you might as well forget anything that involves elliptic curve keys! :-)
+:::: Well in my personal opinion, we should not avoid undocumented functions merely because they are undocumented. If you're going to do that you might as well forget anything that involves elliptic curve keys! :-)
---[[User:Matt|Matt]] 20:41, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
+:::: --[[User:Matt|Matt]] 20:41, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
 ==Should we be promoting a commercial company?==

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	: The intent was to provide a link to an inexpensive, high quality random source. Do you want to start a table with prices at the bottom of the page? Prices are important because some of this gear is expensive. $40 UK is dirt cheap for a FIPS approved generator. [[User:Jwalton\|Jwalton]] 18:33, 30 March 2013 (UTC)		: The intent was to provide a link to an inexpensive, high quality random source. Do you want to start a table with prices at the bottom of the page? Prices are important because some of this gear is expensive. $40 UK is dirt cheap for a FIPS approved generator. [[User:Jwalton\|Jwalton]] 18:33, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
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		+	: No, I think a table would be worse. Leave it for now, we can review if it turns into a problem --[[User:Matt\|Matt]] 08:28, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

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		+	: Feel free [[User:Jwalton\|Jwalton]] 18:34, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

	==Is RAND_poll part of the public API?==		==Is RAND_poll part of the public API?==

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	--[[User:Matt\|Matt]] 12:33, 9 March 2013 (UTC)		--[[User:Matt\|Matt]] 12:33, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
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		+	: The intent was to provide a link to an inexpensive, high quality random source. Do you want to start a table with prices at the bottom of the page? Prices are important because some of this gear is expensive. $40 UK is dirt cheap for a FIPS approved generator. [[User:Jwalton\|Jwalton]] 18:33, 30 March 2013 (UTC)